Four New Ships Joining Disney Cruise Line Fleet Between 2027 and 2031

HauntedPirate7 days ago

Just so everyone is clear: Magic/Wonder 3 new Dream/Fantasy Wish/Treasure/Destiny/new ship Adventure Wish-class OLC ship 13 total in 2031(presuming everything is delivered on time).

peter114358 days ago

Correct

MrNonacho8 days ago

So the Wish class in the article is NOT the one for OLC? Meaning there will be five Wish class ships total?

peter114358 days ago

No, three of the 4 new ships will be the new class. The other will be an additional Wish class. Still 13 total.

MrNonacho8 days ago

Only three of the new class? That would only be 12 total.

cjkeating8 days ago

Let’s hope not. At least until we know how these ships are going to be designed!

vikescaper8 days ago

I wonder if two of the three new ships will replace the Magic and Wonder?

DCBaker8 days ago

Some more details on the new ships: Disney Cruise Line will build a fourth Wish-class ship then move to a new design of three slightly smaller vessels to access more destinations and support environmental goals. These are the first details of the company's four new builds contracted at Meyer Werft last August. Before now, Disney hadn't disclosed what it planned. New class 100,000gt The fourth 144,000gt, LNG-powered Wish-class ship, with capacity for 4,000 passengers, will come in 2027. It will be followed by three vessels in 2029, 2030 and 2031, measuring approximately 100,000gt with capacity for 3,000 passengers. This makes the new class 20% larger than DCL's original Disney Magic and Disney Wonder, yet smaller than the Dream and Wish classes. Future fuels and a battery system The three new ships will not use LNG but will be able to run on a variety of fuels, including hydrotreated vegetable oil (HVO) and renewable methanol, while remaining adaptable to additional fuel options that become available to the cruise industry. Disney said they'll also be among the lightest cruise ships of their size, saving fuel with a streamlined hull, next-generation power and propulsion systems and numerous other operations optimized for energy efficiency. As well, they'll be outfitted with a battery system to support and supplement the main engines. And, in port, they'll be able to shut down their engines and use shore power. Access to more destinations 'As we expand our fleet, it is important that we continue to provide a variety of experiences for our guests. Families enjoy the diversity of vacations we offer, from our classic vessels to our Wish-class ships,' said Thomas Mazloum, president, New Experiences Portfolio & Disney Signature Experiences. 'They also expect to explore a broad range of destinations, including those that prefer to host smaller ships. 'At the same time, we are focused on implementing new technology and designs that align with our longstanding commitment to the environment.' 'Guests will see the difference' The Disney Imagineers are 'dreaming up this new class of ships to be as fuel and energy efficient as possible,' added Philip Gennotte, portfolio project management executive, Walt Disney Imagineering, 'and our guests will see the difference — from a more hydrodynamic design to lighter materials and energy-efficient technology throughout ... We’re very proud to continue to support Disney’s broader environmental goals, now and into the future.' 13 ships in 2031 After debuting second Wish-class ship Disney Treasure in December, Disney Cruise Line currently fields six vessels. Together with this year's Disney Destiny (third in the Wish class) and the big (208,000gt) Disney Adventure (originally Global Dream), the fleet will number 13 in 2031. In addition, partner Oriental Land Co., which owns and operates Disney parks in Tokyo, is to take delivery of a Meyer Werft-built, Wish-class ship in late 2028 that will cruise year-round in Japan starting in early 2029. https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/shipbuilding-equipment/disney-cruise-plans-new-smaller-design-for-3-ships-after-4th-wish

BrianLoOct 01, 2024

Ya, that’s sort of the heart of it. The end points have the same design flaws. Both trying to keep up with industry trends but made their ship smaller in NCL’s case or didn’t increase it to accommodate in Wish Class case. The reasons they got there are a bit different (inexperience in DCLs case and major downsizing in NCLs), but both of the design flaws are attempting to do too much at the end of the day. In doing so much they let down too many. For what it’s worth I don’t mind either class, personally. But know there’s a vocal contingent with similar complaints for both. Micro venues and down sizing guest spaces that they actually want to use.

HauntedPirateOct 01, 2024

I don't know about the criticisms leveled at NCL's ships, but a lot of the criticisms aimed at the Wish are mainly design-related - Poor choices by an architect who had never sailed on a cruise ship that were approved by the Master Ship Builder himself. Can't argue there weren't too many things crammed in, because there absolutely were. But the Wish, to me, feels like revolution instead of evolution. And it failed.

BrianLoOct 01, 2024

@monothingie - this order book also affirms a discussion we were having several months back. The wish class wasn’t as expensive as I think you thought it was. DCL treasure/destiny is 900. Though Adventure is 1.8.

BrianLoOct 01, 2024

Excellent. This puts them in the wheelhouse of Royals Quantum Class and NCL’s Breakaway Class. Two classes I think highly of. Notably, both NCL’s Prima Class and DCL’s Wish class seem to have the same vein of criticisms - that they tried to tack on too many venues to a ship that wasn’t quite big enough to support them all. Leading to micro venues. That said, Celebrities Edge Class runs 130-140k tonnage and is quite well regarded. So it was more of a cramming in too much problem than something inherently off with the tonnage.

HauntedPirateOct 01, 2024

Indeed, a great find. If the listed price is accurate, there’s $5.2 billion of that $60 billion they’ve talked about spending in the next 10-20 years.

DisoneSep 30, 2024

The detail of 160 ton is a good find.